I have experienced two tortured. My first was Bayley which I adopted from the humane Culture. Sad to say this beauty had a liver shunt and went over the Rainbow at 6 months previous. I just received my first Torrie in November from the shelter. Tortitude is an actual point. https://donovanjaqes.techionblog.com/33416885/the-tortoise-and-the-hare-moral-diaries